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Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by Killer-B, Sep 28, 2005.

  1. Killer-B

    Killer-B New Member

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    Why can't the U.S. of America travel down this road???

    Newswire.

    AP

    CANBERRA: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told
    on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
    radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after
    a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at
    a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his
    ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

    Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted
    that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
    they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws
    were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want
    a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia
    is not for you," he said on national television. "I'd be saying to
    clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in
    Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that
    that is false.

    If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts,
    democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to
    go to another country which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a
    better option," Costello said. Asked whether he meant radical clerics
    would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could
    possibly be asked move to the other country.

    Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims
    who did not want to accept local values should "clear off."
    "Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't
    want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then
    they can basically clear off," he said. Separately, Howard angered
    some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spies
    monitoring the nation's mosques agencies.
  2. Goose

    Goose New Member

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    Because were so GD PC. They shoulda run Louis Farrakhan outta here a LONG time ago, just a for instance. There is the first amendment, though. So long as it's just SPEECH, it's constitutionally protected. When it becomes action, not saying a bombing or something, but simple incitement to treason, well, kick their butts out!

    Still, the freedoms we have that protect some of these butt wipes are why this is the greatest country in the history of man. ;)

    JMHO of course.
  3. Big Ben

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    Killer B, I'm not sure why you think we would need to "travel down that road", or even why you think it would be a good thing. We already have this nifty thing called the first amendment which says that people don't get to live under sharia law in the US.

    Like Goose said, the same first amendment also gives people, including radical muslims, the right to say stupid things. But I'd rather have to listen to idiots spouting their nonsense every once in a while than give up the freedoms that make our country great. I don't want my country telling people that certain opinions aren't allowed. Freedom's gotta be for everybody.
  4. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I think the he&& with the first Amendment for these people, pack em up and send em back or put the little beggers in camps where they can be watched. :D

    I think all people coming into this country should all learn to speak English and not have to have special schools to learn their language. :D

    How many times have you just simply gone through a drive through and you can't even understand the person. Speak English or go back home. :D

    Not prejudice just sick and tired of whining Arrabs and foreigners who won't speak English. :mad:
  5. Killer-B

    Killer-B New Member

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    ???

    Well, it was just food for thought, I know of our amendments and consider myself a patriot. I just thought I would show that other countries are doing something to head off the RADICALS. I wrote ‘travel down that road’ to be taken figuratively not literally and thought others might like to read the article. “Radicals are in a town near you” :D :rolleyes:
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    Killer-B New Member

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    Yep

    If English is the universal language, why is it not spoken universally ???
    :D
  7. Sleepy

    Sleepy Well-Known Member

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    Good topic

    Not long ago the government of Ontario was embroiled in a debate over Sharia Law being allowed to displaced conventional laws in family disputes. Ontario is highly multicultural and if this type of law was to pass it would be there. The government closed the debate on the bill. It would be a real Pandora's Box should you start fracturing the fundamentals of rules and order..it's bad enough now. Now we'll see what happens should it go the appeal route. Sharia Law doesn't stand much chance up here in Redneck country.
  8. Goose

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    Oh, definitely you're not going to replace the laws of THIS land with theocratic laws! :rolleyes: The first ammendment also separates church and state. The state cannot specify a state religion and the laws of the land are based on English common law and written down in the constitution, case closed. If some imam came up with that in TEXAS, you think Calgary is "redneck" country? Bwaaaaa, ha, ha!

    We have been tolerant of weird cults down here, but they must follow the rules of law. Some haven't and found out the raw truth. I'm thinking of David Karesh and those guys out in West Texas that called themselves the "Republic of Texas" and claimed to be a separate country. Well, I think the rangers took care of 'em. :rolleyes:
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    Killer-B, I didn't mean to question your patriotism, and I apologize if it sounded like I was doing so.
    It's just that I've got a lot of respect for the founders and the constitution they created, and it seriously bothers me when I see people implying that the rights and freedoms they tried to guarantee don't apply to everybody.
    I personally believe that protecting those rights and freedoms is far more important that any particular war we may be invovled in. Like Goose said, if they break the law, nail 'em, but they don't give up their rights just because they preach a stupid ideology.
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    flhtcu rob New Member

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    First amendment smirst amendment. I let the second amendment do MY talking. ;) :D I'm multicultural as well. I have American, Spanish, Russian, Austrian, German, as well as others, firearms. :cool:

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